What Happened to Doreen Virtue?

Fantastic review! I didn’t know about Doreen’s change in path. I just read some people’s comments about her. Yikes, there’s some pretty low vibration being created and sent her way! Your review, on the other hand, is very understanding/non-judgemental and well thought out. Thanks for your info on Jesus and the bible too.

Rick Warren in a “Purpose Driven Life” said something to the effect that Christianity is a way of life, not a religion and that has resonated with me ever since. Thank you Dr Lesley for your explanations about the developments in Dr Doreen Virtue’s life and the co-existence of Christianity and New Age concepts as well-your explanation resonated with me as well.

I’ve had two full death encounters and have met Jesus in both encounters. First, at age 25 when I was in the Light and again at age 44, when I went through dying and travelled back into the Light and then to our Lord’s heaven, which exists as a separate pocket in the Light from this pocket of space we call the Universe.

The whole thing I learned is located inside of God’s being of pure Light and made form the same substance of His (its) being. This knowledge is also located in the Bible if you know how to see the Bible from the perspective of the Light. I recently created a one hour video on youtube which might help you understand this simple absolute truth, if you wish to learn more. Here is the URL:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uYD5De4Q5eM&list=PLq4OQnC5T9TruupRuLLAq9I_YiheS1cnY&index=2

When you know what I know, you will read the Bible in a whole grand different way versus how the living read the book. Also, both the Bible, the Quran and the books of the Jews are all tied together by the Pentateuch, the first five books Moses wrote which serve as introductory documents for all three major faiths, including the Mormon faith, making a fourth major faith with the same foundation in spite of the differing prophets which affect the beliefs of each faith.

With that in mind, the following quote from this article is interesting to me, because most don’t understand the Bible who are among the living anyway which I learned in death. A lot poured into me when I was in the Light versus my talk with Jesus who came out of the Light to help me with the experience.

“This may horrify some people, but I am going to say it anyway. Jesus was a healer and a psychic.”

When you read the information in the Bible where it makes it clear that God was guiding the “begats” that lead to the making of His body, when He came to the Earth, understand that He was directing the pathway of His DNA in all those begats for 14 x 3 generations. The reason is his brain was not like the rest of us, but was programmed, so it could interact with the power of God’s being all around us, making up the creation, a creation made from the pure white Light of what God really is and also suspended inside the being we call God. This gave our Lord what we would call telekinetic ability to interact with the Light or Holy Spirit of God regarding the miracles He did on the Earth. The Bible makes it clear there are two ways, for instance, by which you can get healed: One through Jesus, if He so chooses, or you can do it yourself, if you can connect with the Light which is your source. This is reflected in the way Jesus often spoke in the Bible when someone was healed. Often He would say “Your faith has made you well”. All too true. In those cases, He did nothing to heal the person of their illness. The one who was sick or crippled simply tapped into their source and received the power that way so they could be well again. This explains why the Light told Thomas Mellan Benedict; “All of you have always had the power to heal yourselves. You have had it from the beginning”. This is supported by the Bible when you know how to read the book correctly. I had to die to see the book in the right way these days. All the more I don’t really associate with any of the religions on the planet because of what happened to me in the Light. All the religions are deficient of the real truth to what it all is and the absolute simplicity of what it all is. I’m glad to see Doreen Virtue is not too proud to admit she is still learning. This is why the living need to be careful when listening to the metaphysical teachers these days. I like Doreen Virtue’s Angel 101 book because there is a certain validity to that book in my experience with it, but that is a subject for another time. (chuckling)

Jesus even told Glenda Green in her book LOVE WITHOUT END, that if he had married, He would have had gods for children….all with super powers. If he had married anyone, it would have been Mary Magdalene he told Glenda Green, because Mary greatly appreciated Jesus’s way of looking at things. During my years going through Catholic grade schools, this thought had been brought up in one of my religious studies classes as to who He would have married, if He had married and what the kids would be like if they had, had any. It was supposed back in those days some 45 years ago that His kids would all have super powers. The evidence is in the Bible when you understand the 14 x 3 begats leading to the creation of the human body He would use while He was on the Earth. A lot poured into me from the Light at age 25, but I preferred not to talk about all of this as a scholar, artisan and scientist most of my life. I’m now age 61 having been through a lot in one lifetime.

When you look at the powers Jesus displayed, from levitation of His body on water, helping the healing of the sick and dying with His ability to connect to the Light as a man, to instantaneous duplication of mass and matter with the loaves and fishes, Jesus was not just what we would call a psychic and healer, but a wizard by Harry Potter type standards. Still the use of those type of words with the Christian Church is considered sacrilege to their way of thinking. The problem with this whole thing is in the use of syntax when describing the one main truth of it all you will learn when you die. Each person’s wording is what is creating the confusion with those who are seeking answers to the whole mess.

In death, I learned there is only one simple reality to what the whole thing is about. It’s so simple a child could understand it. However, the world tends to garbage up each other’s thinking with syntax problems when describing all of this simple stuff. This is what is at the heart of the differing faiths arguing with each other too, even when you go past the simple message of the gospel in scholastic conversation of Jesus. Having been in the midst of it all in death, I have no problem understanding what it is all about at my current age. But the living tend to get trapped in the fight over words in this world I’ve learned and the result is a lot of unnecessary fighting and hate through the syntaxing of wording in all the arguments.

You also have to see that the Bible is not complete by any means. John 21:25 makes that clear when looking at the book as a collective work. John makes it clear the Earth could not hold all the books capturing all the Jesus did, let alone what he said. So in truth, 66 documents does not cut it. This was known in scholastic circles when I was attending Loyola University back in the 1970’s. All the more we use to call the Bible “Basic Instructions Before Leaving Earth”, while knowing the book was not holy or complete, but full of holes which are easy to prove if you are travelling scholarly circles. The book is constructed more like swiss cheese when you can see the deficiencies, but that does not mean the deficiencies discredit the substance that is there in the pages that make up the current day book. I’m not saying these things to side with the devil, who I learned in the Light is quite real, but to help bring peace to those who are fighting each other over the contents of the book as a collective work.

We are now living in a more enlightened time because of mass media and the internet. As such, the sharing of insightful questions is more readily available to the masses and these are questions that need answers to them if the Church is to even understand all the NDE testimonies occurring all over the net from those of us who have been dead and have much to share with world that is literally stuck in a spiritual rut these days.

Thank you, this was a really beautiful and well written article. The challenge in being a public figure is that everyone wants you to be their mascot, and I think Doreen has definitely experienced that. I don’t think any of us should be under the constant pressure of having to represent a spirituality “Brand”. Because we are all individual and all on our own journey.

My personal truth is that I have experienced Jesus in a very personal way, and I have also had psychic experiences my entire life. The pressure from both sides to denounce the other is frustrating and creates stress for those who want to live in spiritual truth/integrity. To deny your experience is the worst form of soul betrayal, whether it pertains to experiences with Jesus or psychic experiences.

This is why I pray for God’s will to be done, the will of the source of all creation, because it cuts through all the “noise”, and liberates me from fear of “doing it wrong” from a spirituality perspective.

Once again, thank you for a very thoughtful article.

I believe there is a dark and light side to all religions, including the new-age. As a psychic, I admit that as much as spirituality has helped people, there are times I’ve witnessed how it has made people sick or even caused them to break with reality. Too much playing with energy, vibrations, and kundalini without really knowing what they are doing. And too much focus on abundance, money, and labels (indigo, star child etc) and an attitude of force and entitlement with the law of attraction.

When people start using Law of Attraction like one would use a spell to try to manipulate an ex to return or to avoid change, then it becomes an issue. Its like no one knows how to recognize boundaries anymore or when its time to move on from something and law of attraction is used to try to force. Psychic abilities are all geared toward self-gain with “oneness” being a nice footnote.. And I wish all these issues were just an occasional occurrence but its something I’ve talked about with other psychics and even other psychics will state most of their clients are unstable or delusional. Yet, the instability is encouraged or said nothing about for whatever reason, fear of censure or monetary reasons.

A friend of mine who has had financial difficulties for two years (going broke and now 50,000 in debt he can’t repay) at least once a month he draws the abundance card or has a dream and tells me it means he will win the lottery. He’s psychic, he needs to trust his intuition, he tells me. I had another friend fall for the dinar dollar scam and even after learning it was a scam he kept spending money on it because the abundance card was telling him to. I’ve know people who use angel cards or see 11:11 and think the guy who played them, used them, is a sex addict, etc is their twin flame. I’ve never seen so much infidelity justified in the name of psychic readings or twin flames. I feel most of my job as a psychic is trying to get people to get back to having some way to test their reality, have a sense of values, or to let go of excessive self-entitlement. Its like the dark side of the new age is making people delusional, get-rich-quicky, excessively self-involved, and narcissistic. Just feels like people are so lost and the more they search for themselves in the new age and get sucked into all the ego-draws of fulfillment, the more lost they become. Shhhhh no one say anything though because it might not be positive.

I think the solution is to just use more discretion when working with the psychic or spiritual realms and to keep grounded. Keep focusing on the advice of the masters without joining anything that seems like a cult. Jesus walked the desert to find the truth and early pre-constantine Christians followed this example, sometimes joining together in monasteries. There needs to be more quiet. Too many ideas, too much entitlement, too much of too much, so that there needs to be a falling back, away from so much extremism into something more balanced and quiet.

I have always adored Doreen for her beautiful books and decks she has written through Divine guidance and inspiration with good intention and heart. I feel she was following her path then and continues even now. I think it is safe to say how is easy it can be for any of us to get overwhelmed in our paths and journeys. There may be times where drastic measures are needed in our experiences to create a clearer understanding of the whole and that of ourselves. Therefore, I would never judge her or any soul for the choices they make, as it is their personal journey to explore and learn. Just because we may not always agree or understand the undertakings of others… it is perfectly ok. We are not meant to, for we are living our paths, not others.

Thus, I bless Doreen wholly with much love and light for all she has shared with us. Beloved Dr Lesley, thank you for your beautiful take on this whole experience with the article you have written. I agree with much of what is written. We are all of one Divine Source. Jesus shared with us the way of healers and mediumship as we all have the same abilities which are given by God/Source/Higher Power. It is true, we are not to use the resources of books, cards, crystals, etc. as being the way and reasons for us (For it then resembles using the magic 8 ball to solve all our problems and solutions, only to create more confusion and perhaps chaos). Rather we can allow these resources to act as a tool to help connect us Divinely to God/Father Creator/Angels of guidance, and our authentic self (much like the bible does for people of Christian Faith) for the greater purpose of self and the whole.

I know you mean well, but I would be more careful about performing healing on others unless permission in given. Although the immediate effects look good we cannot see the long term effects if the healing and exchange of energy is not asked for.

We each choose our paths, and choose which lessons to learn from them. So whatever Doreen wishes to do is not my business. But I was surprised to hear that it is unusual for spirituality – in the form of healing, psychometry, tarot and similar readings and messages etc – and Jesus to be mixed. For me, he is my best mate, but I don’t rate the bible much at all. I regard the bible as written by man, not God, and I don’t accept it as a guideline for Christianity. Jesus is that guideline. My ‘new age’ spirituality and mediumship go hand in hand with Jesus, and God, and angels, and it feels right to me. Dr. Lesley, I really enjoyed your write up and explanation.

I can’t help my self. hihi. So bare with me okay. Be course we have so many divine helpers around us at any time that constantly inspire us so we can walk our souls path. I am sure that it is in her path to change ships for a while. If she was going in the wrong directions, she would be stop.Everything has it’s time and when she has learned enough, she will return to the divine vibration universe. Sorry, in my universe, any bible does not have divine vibration.No need to be offended or angry.It is just my feeling.

Even if Michael had an influence on her, you as a person and spirit, can only be directed in to new ways if you need love.If you are not really feeling good about your self. So it can be that.

When that is said.I do not feel that we have the right to read other peoples energies if a person hasn’t given the permission to do so. To me It is very boundary crossing big time.I would not like my self if people tap on to me .I have the right to my own privacy.So does Doreen or anyone else.Even the souls that has past on.

Something is going on.I feel like looking at her picture often, sending her love and compassion.

May you all be blessed when you need it the most. Angels orbs coming your way.

I was astonished, as I thought “everyone” was raised in the nearest Christian church (or Methodist, or Baptist, or Nazarene, etc. etc.) as I was. I have experienced several occasions of Jesus intervening in my life … from when I was at the Methodist camp in the mountains near my home and “gave” my life to God. When I visited a local non-denominational church several months later and was baptized by immersion, I came out of the water crying and cried for three days straight — except for the time that I was at my job at work. But upon arriving home again, the tears began again. This is where I was metaphysically speaking when I met my husband, who has now passed. So we were Christian evangelicals, who attended no church, but spoke with God/Jesus almost daily… And then when he passed, I went through the Dark Night of the Soul… as my Soul was devastated by the loss of kinship with my husband’s soul, as when he passed, he became his Soul. This is a difficult time for those who experience this. I was depressed and very tired from having cared for my husband for the past three years as he was dying. Those who have experienced this say it is about a 10-year experience, and that was true of me, and now, I am a nothing… It’s like I’m beyond the church(es) and am searching for the spiritual practice that best suits me. I have a great deal of recall of past lives and things like that. So I always thought Doreen had been a Christian as a child and growing up. See, that was the blank space in her life. And yet, she searched the world for spiritual information, traveling to foreign countries and sacred sites. I’m sure she will change again at some future date and also be able to “choose” what spirituality best suits her. I wish her well…

BPI, Asclepion, Church of the Rose

As psychic christian minister I still like to play with the card decks and study or read other metaphysicans. Spirit however often tells me "you already know all of this"
A huge swirling pillar of fire once appeared to me and I have read the bible as both sequences of numbers and as text written in a fiery script not used on earth today.
I have consciously crossed over and been awake in temples and learning centers in other dimensions and the other side. Etc.,Etc, etc and I still hold ordinary jobs and enjoy nature and things as mundane as a good cup of coffee or a beautiful flower