What Happened to Doreen Virtue?

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What Happened To Doreen Virtue – Angel Cards And Christianity?

I have had so many people ask me about what happened to Doreen Virtue? We all have heroes and role models of every kind. TV heroes that save the day. Good friends that we look up to. Scientists and physicians that have brought health and wonderful inventions to the world. Even some public figures have been an inspiration such as the late President Kennedy and Martin Luther King.  Some of the most important of these notable figures are spiritual leaders. Those that teach us what it means to be a spirit living in a human body and expressing it. Sometimes, however, these pillars of virtue can fall or at least fall in our eyes. Which do you think is true of Doreen Virtue’s reversal of path?

When a friend recently told me that Hay House maven Doreen Virtue had denounced her previous existence as the doyen of intuitive card decks, even her Angel Cards, and had reinvented herself as a bible bearing Christian I could have been blown over by an angel’s feather. So I set out to investigate. The internet was in an uproar. Christians were delighting that such a famous New Age celebrity had denounced the devil’s work and converted to a path of righteousness. Hardcore tarot card readers and fans were upset and angry; they felt used and abandoned. I watched the now infamous video and this is where I ended up.

Doreen Virtue Stopped Using Tarot And Card Decks

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What Doreen Virtue said in her video was that she had stopped using her own card decks or indeed any card decks. She said that she should never have created her Ascended Masters deck because that was not how they wished us to connect with them. Dr. Virtue has nothing against card decks per se, her problem was more how they were being used. She had been using them as a proxy for communicating directly with God and she had realized this was not correct for her.

I did a podcast episode about card decks not so long ago entitled “How to Use Tarot Cards.” As opposed to being an instruction guide for using cards, it was meant to be more about how to approach it in general. I have to say I agree with most of what Doreen Virtue said. The power is not within the object. The power is inside you. So if you are using your tarot as though the deck is the oracle itself then, in my opinion, you are misguided. If you have memorized the book that came with your deck then you are using your intellect and not your intuition.

Card decks can be a great tool to help people bypass their intellect and access the intuition. If you are looking at the symbols and pictures and translating them into meaning in the context of the present moment and the person being read then you are using your cards as a doorway to your higher knowing. Many people can’t access their intuition easily due to their intellectual programming. Starting with a card deck can be a gentle introduction to intuition and may be less frustrating for the student than trying to access it directly. This is why I created my Portico cards.

Another perspective is certain people having a psychic reading are not in control of their energy. As they are curious about what will be said they project their energy into the third eye of the reader. As someone who reads from trance without objects of any kind, I can tell you this can be extremely painful and uncomfortable. So it has to be managed energetically. For readers who do not know techniques for that having a card deck can attract the readees invasive energy onto the card deck instead of into the readers head as the readee believes that is where the power lies.

What Happened To Doreen Virtue – Christianity And New Age Beliefs

The reason Christians and New Agers dislike each other so much is based on misunderstandings about each other. As well as misinterpretation of doctrine that bears no resemblance to the ancient spiritual teachings of our human heritage or to universal spiritual laws.

As someone who originally trained in the spiritual arts at a Psychic Christian church, I believe I have a unique perspective on this. My training including a clairvoyant reading of the Bible to access the essence of the teachings, which have been translated and mistranslated through many languages, were copied by hand over and over before the invention of the printing press and tweaked by various self-interested parties for political gain. Some of the essences were lost.

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Not only that much of the original teachings were encoded, symbolic, metaphors and parables to preserve the information for followers and protect it from foes. It was never meant to be taken literally. What I learned from my time in psychic seminary was that the bible discusses energy healing and spiritual abilities at length. Far from being the work of the devil, these were gifts from God that we can use to communicate as spirit and to receive guidance.

The foundation of all religions is love. The message of all great teachers is Love thy neighbor as thyself. We are all unique aspects of God and were given the freedom to express our unique perspective on Earth. When we allow ourselves to connect through love we can accept each other as unique expressions of divine consciousness and not judge, fear and seek to control.

What Happened To Doreen Virtue  – What Does Doreen Virtue Say About Jesus And The Bible?

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This may horrify some people, but I am going to say it anyway. Jesus was a healer and a psychic. Like Doreen Virtue, he is one of my favorite teachers. I consult him often in my work and I ask for his guidance. He never refuses me and is delighted to help. Also, like Doreen Virtue I am usually careful about whom I tell this too. A fundamental Christian would say I was a blasphemer. A new age follower might cringe at the mention of his name.

He doesn’t look at all like most of the paintings and movie portrayals by the way.

Jesus life and many of the books in the New Testament provide a roadmap for life on Earth. Far from being a prediction of our demise, the Book of Revelations tells you all you need to know about operating consciously as spirit in a human body. Many of the books in the Old Testament are historical. When read clairvoyantly reveal a history quite different to what you learned at school and are replete with giants, genetics, aliens living on Earth, spaceships and more.

Being psychic and believing in Jesus and the bible are not mutually exclusive. I embrace both and Doreen Virtue shouldn’t have to choose between them.

One other thing Doreen Virtue mentioned about her visitation from Christ was that she knew at that moment that he was THE son of God. I would like to hear more from her about that. Jesus is the son of God and I believe his message was that we are all children of God. In other words, we are all projections of Source. We are all aspects of God incarnate. Jesus realized he was. He awakened as divine consciousness within a body and mastered being a spiritual presence on Earth. We too can be enlightened if we follow his guidance; or the teachings of other masters.

What Happened To Doreen VirtueThe Doreen Virtue Conversion To Christianity

The story is that she has always been a Christian, but was not always comfortable expressing

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this in public for fear of alienating part of her fan base. This comes from Doreen Virtue’s Jesus video on the web.

Until one day while attending a Church service, she had a visitation from Jesus. He encouraged her to be true to herself, live a more authentic life and to stop using her angel cards as a form of idol worship.

Doreen Virtue has undergone an image change over the last few years. She has changed her appearance from glittering angelic siren to mother Mary in blue. It may be that she decided to age gracefully or stop dying her hair for health reasons. But could it be she was moving toward her new public persona all along? One may wonder what Michael Robinson Doreen Virtue’s husband thinks about the whole scenario.

When I look at what happened to Doreen Virtue and the transition what I see is her becoming more grounded. The angelic persona was a fit when she was not grounded and spent more time out of her body communing with angels and other spirits. As she got more in touch with her body, the planet and, the creatures of the earth she got more grounded and more present in her body. So the current Doreen Virtue is more earthy and in a sense more real, more human, less perfect.

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Another change is she is avoiding doing psychic readings, including her famous Doreen Virtue Weekly Reading and Angel Message For Today, and says now she prefers to pray and study the bible. I am concerned that this will cause a further schism in the psychic Christian divergence. For me, both are ways of communicating as spirit. Praying is communication with God. When I read I am communicating with God. I read from trance, a meditative state which allows me to tune out the physical world and tune into spiritual reality. I can ask questions, ask for help and receive my answers. This is probably what Doreen is doing when she prays. She probably also reads the bible intuitively by asking God for deeper insights into its meaning.

What Happened To Doreen Virtue – Is Doreen Virtue Profiting From Turning To Christianity?

Doreen Virtue had told Hay House that she no longer wished to profit from her intuitive card decks, like her Archangel Oracle Cards a 45-card deck and guidebook, and instructed them to give her royalties to charity and if new decks were printed to remove her name from them as she no longer wished to endorse them. This is a real turnabout for a most prolific creator of card decks. Currently, Hay House lists 36 card decks with her name on them. The number could be higher if there are some already out of print. Her books, some of which are, Angel Therapy, Archangels And Ascended Masters A Guide, Angel Therapy, are best sellers. One may wonder what will happen to Doreen Virtue net worth and will it matter to her.

On hearing what happened to Doreen Virtue all this one cynical blogger put forward the following opinion. “Perhaps Doreen Virtue’s sales have been declining and this is an attempt to create controversy to get noticed again. It might stimulate a rush on her old products before they are no longer available. She becomes a limited commodity.”

Then, of course, the new persona piques curiosity from her existing fan base and attention from a massive new audience – the Christian community. In this projected future reality, a new throng of followers is created and flocks to her new YouTube channel; a captive audience for her new Christian focused products. Whether this happens remains to be seen. I believe she will write more books; it’s is in her soul, but they will be different ones that will attract a new audience.

Is it contrived? Not necessarily.

a look at doreen virtue clairvoyantlyWhat Happened To Doreen VirtueA Healing And Psychic Reading For Doreen Virtue

When I look at Doreen Virtue clairvoyantly right now this is what I see:

A tremendous amount of attention has been piled on top of her. Her main vibration is a healing blue. But she looks grey as she is covered in foreign energy such as expectations and judgment from others. She feels overwhelmed and is tired of it because it blocks her clear communication with God. The situation is bringing up an opportunity for some inner healing. I am seeing some shame, some regret; a desire to be authentic and understood, but a question about whether that is even possible. I see her struggling internally but genuinely turning to God for answers; being humbled by her transformation. She is retreating from the unwanted attention that comes not only from the new age fan base. It’s also from the Christians who judge her past behavior and who want to shovel their doctrine onto her rather than leave her be to develop her own answers.

So I administer a healing. I help her clear her connection with God and the planet. I run Christ Force energy through her space and ask Jesus to help. Together we clear the foreign energy off. Her vibration increases. The main vibration changes from blue to yellow. She feels relief, release, freedom, and joy. She feels closer to God.

My name is Rev. Dr. Lesley Phillips – I am a child of God.

Her name is Doreen Virtue Ph.D. – she is my sister.

What happened to Doreen Virtue? Her name like yours is written on the skein of time and space – Doreen and you too are a divine portion of the cosmic whole.

Namaste.

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81 Comments on “What Happened to Doreen Virtue?”

  1. Fantastic review! I didn’t know about Doreen’s change in path. I just read some people’s comments about her. Yikes, there’s some pretty low vibration being created and sent her way! Your review, on the other hand, is very understanding/non-judgemental and well thought out. Thanks for your info on Jesus and the bible too.

  2. That’s interesting that you saw a gray light around her. Someone else was telling me that she got so besieged by people wanting something from her that she got exhausted. I can believe, but I would’ve rather she took a vacation and regrouped than become a born-again Christian!

    1. Yes – she has so many followers – that is a lot of energy to deal with. Then now with a lot of those people being unhappy about her changes & directing their displeasure at her – she’s dealing with a lot.

    2. Did you see that Doreen Virtue went from praising how wonderful Hay House was no matter what lies or harm came out of there when she was making bank via them . Then they dropped her Dec 2017 after she after a mass simony event with them Dec 2017 was exposed for having judged psychics & mediums as being rejected by God.

      She blamed the new age itself for why her book Archangels & Ascended Master was a problem .. the new age people were taking it wrong in the Aug 2017 Bancarz video.
      That video Bancarz put out telling new age people in the description that it was her denouncing the new age ,

      Feb 2018 Virtue came in a frequently asked questions video & came out saying she had never denounced the new age.. never used those words , another in a in interview said those words & it caused problems .. It was only Bancarz who did that of the few people she had given interviews to after her so called conversion.

      Bancarz promotes the Doreen Virtue Jesus conversion story based on her Real Jesus Jan 2017 story though he has had delivered to him the published Jesus testimony Doreen Virtue published 2016 claiming she had a visitation with Jesus, Mary & 3rd figure as 17 yr old girl in a bedroom & was born again then & Virtue when this started to be shared took down that story but it was captured via the wayback machine , her echo of that story was published by Hay House Heal your life website 2016 under her name , & that same story was presented in the Doreen Virtue nde April 2017 video that she had up for only a short period but others reposted when her Jesus story was found to have changed . In that video she also falsely seems to tell the public that in her divorce from Steven Farmer that he got all the property & money which is not how divorce works in the state of CA.

      Virtue has been exposed as not living in 1,000 sq foot postage stamp property as she put out in a video April 2017 during the time period she was illegally soliticitng donations for her unregistered rescue ranch . That home is an over 20,000 deluxe property with 7 bedrooms & baths . Vegans did a video on this titled Doreen Virtue a Plea for Justice .

      Virtue went on to do a mass simony event with Hay House while she played at being a Christian mystic though the Bible forbids simony . She & Hay House took hundreds of people in Australia via her Angel intuitive scheme early Dec 2017 where all attending were certified as angel intuitive for giving money & showing up . Her buddy Steven Bancarz was challenged by Desiree Krautkramer with Lisa Eddy tagged on the twitter conversation to press for Doreen Virtue & Hay House to return all monies from the event as none can buy a gift of God.. Bancarz replied Virtue did not owe the new age people swindled anything but truth & Jesus.

      Virtue was exposed by her former student Lisa Eddy for having had started the Church of Divine Guidance formally in Hawaii .

      It was seemingly exposed by Lisa Eddy that Doreen Virtue’s artist who painted her custom vision art work of her Jan 2017 Jesus vision may have lifted the body of the image right off a Time Magazine cover & once that info was brought into the public forum Virtue stopped plugging the sale of that image to her fans.

      Lisa Eddy exposed that while Virtue was claiming poverty she owned numerous properties around the US. This was found via a background check of properties owned by Doreen Virtue including a recently purchased almost 1 million dollar mega home in the state of WA. Virtue came out saying she picked to move to WA state for they have no income tax & her father who she supports via money exploited via new age people vetoed other locations. He lives with her .

      Virtue mentioned Aug 2017 Bancarz live stream that she had low vibration entities attached to her at her baptism in her Bancarz video . It was nothing he seemed to massively responded to ..

      April 2018 on new Bancarz live stream she was positioning she was demon possessed psychic slave girl of Hay House & event producers & that in the new age she had been possessed by a python demon. While Virtue by her approximation would be declaring she made almost all her Hay House products while demonically possessed she keeps taking royalities from Hay House .She told Bancarz she is behind in taxes & Michael David Robinson her partner told her it would take approx 1 – 2 yrs to pay that off . She said she might not take royalties after that ..

      She in 2017 had told fans she was going to sell all she had to follow Jesus. On the Bancarz live stream she said she had to support her parents & her kids ( who are adult children over 30) so she can’t live in a tiny apartment thus why she lives in her almost million dollar Mansion ?

      Virtue sold her certification classes to students stating they would be listed on her Angel Therapy page as graduate of the various programs. Then she recently though she was still certifying people as recently as Dec 2017 took down the student referral list with no warning . Students who have noticed are upset but have no where to turn. The Fairyologist course people have started to notice & are seemingly upset. That course was highly sold to her fans Spring /Summer 2017 as buy it & all the money would go to support rescue ranch animals.

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  4. Dear Dr. Lesley – I just finished your article on Doreen. Thank you! I’ve enjoyed her cards and books & look forward to continuing to enjoy them. I feel she was true to who she was at the moment she wrote her books & designed her cards. I accept her current view point as it does not change the spark of the divine she carries in her soul. I send her love & light on her new journey.

  5. WOW … I am just catching up on emails and read your long article on “What happened to Doreen Virtue?” I was curious as I did not know and have a deck of her cards in my car which someone gave to me recently. I have enjoyed her work over the years. You did an amazing job in your article, Bless You!! Yes, it is amazing how much confusion and mixed messages are out there, for sure. I recently facilitated a class at the First United Spiritualist Church … grass roots information and found a letter from my Aunt in NZ written in 1993 in which she reported my Sister had told her I belonged to Science of Mind, a Spiritualist Church and she told me Spiritualism is not Christian … I ask you!!
    I am so glad I have learned enough to understand and embrace wholeness and oneness

  6. Doreens problem is her boyfriend Mikael robinson——they are not married
    what kind of man takes his girlfriends exhusbands name as his own.
    Mikael is an unhappy man that tries to control everything around Doreen,
    the trouble with that is he is an idiot and can not .
    Mikael has destroyed Doreen

    1. I agree with you 100% A man who takes his wife’s name is a total pussy. Especially when it is her ex-husbands. What a wus. I bet he lives off of her too. I bet she pays all of the bills. She is a crook too. I used to be a big new ager but not so much now as I have become disgusted by the money grabbing displayed by the “spiritual” people. I think the best words to describe the new age movement is “dolphins and money.” Many new agers are floating on the ceiling.

      1. Thanks for sharing your perspective Cathy – my goal is to help people learn how to be grounded so they don’t “float to the ceiling” and also to help them use their sixth chakra so they can have their own unique perspective and clarity…

      2. Cathy, I have to assume that your comment came from a completely reactive and conditioned space, because if examined mindfully and with awareness, no human being would say such a thing, and especially a woman. Why in the world do we accept that men have to take our names, and that is normal, yet a man taking a woman’s name is not? Sadly, this is a perfect example of how deep the patriarchal conditioning goes.

        And by the way, not all cultures accept the woman taking the man’s name, so if you can look beyond your own cultural conditioning you will see that there is a whole world out there where both sexes equally decide on what name will be used, as well as cultures that prioritize the woman’s name.

  7. Hi Lesley, sorry but you missed a big portion out about what happened after Doreen went public with denouncing her old teachings in this article so I don’t feel it represents what truly happened. She has gaslighted students and blocked them from student forums for simply asking questions, without refunding them even though many of them asked repeatedly after being excluded from the forums without any explanation whatsoever.

    It’s lovely that you wish her well and send her healing but many of those who were refused refunds after losing their access to student forums for just asking questions about her new path want financial recompensation and accountability. Instead she has gaslighted these people in public by referring to them as being ‘used by lower energy’ – Talk about spiritual abuse!

    People also want accountability for what happened with her rescue ranch which she used to solicit for donations illegally from her following. She has done a lot to try to hide the trail of lies around this. I managed to reinstate one of the articles that went missing you can read it here: http://www.westhawaiitoday.com/2017/06/20/north-hawaii-news/a-peaceful-animal-kingdom-local-couple-rescues-animals-in-need/ Don’t miss out on reading the comments below the article.

    Doreen is now busy perpetuating the lie about how she was too poor to keep the rescue ranch. People who are in the know claim she owns ten properties and still earn millions in royalties annually. Yes, she’s had to take a pay cut since her conversion but that hardly justifies poor mouthing for the pity vote with her following.

    I’m sorry but I think the grey you saw probably goes under the blue, bless her.

    I am one of the people who bought a DV course on the promise that the fee sponsored the rescue animals in their forever home and I have been fighting hard to get to the bottom of this. Thankfully, many who have inside info have come to my aid. I hope you will change your article to reflect the truth after you do a bit more research.

    Thank you.

    Lisa

  8. Well Doreen can preach to the choir saying she is guided by Jesus, when in fact she can’t even obey His command about not remarrying if any previous spouses are alive! Even if she married after being saved, like the biblical story of the woman at the well married five times, she told her to stop sinning.

    One may divorce in cases of abuse, adultery etc. but not remarry. What is DV on, her 5th marriage? And if not married to Michael, they are living in adultery, leading other Christians to feel it ok to do. If she is married to Michael, in Gods eyes it is still
    Adultery! Whether one agrees and believes or not, doesn’t change Jesus’ words!

    She is a fraud as many Christians are… Saying they have visions of God and Jesus, yet live their life opposite to Scriptures. She made millions on her cards etc., and exhausted the system, so now she’s using Jesus to make money and so many blind Christians don’t even see it, but then again, many of them don’t do as Jesus instructed either, and make every excuse under the sun as to why, while trying to justify what they do. Didn’t Jesus say everyone would know His true followers by their fruits… The fruits of instruction & wisdom He gave them? Well, Doreen can say shar loves Jesus all she wants to, but she is not following His instruction!

  9. Doreen’s conversion was very surprising. She had done some earlier work collaborating on the audio version of The Disappearance of the Universe by Gary Renard. Gary’s book helped many people understand A Course in Miracles which is the real message that Jesus wanted to convey to the world, not what the current Bible and Christian religions are perpetuating. I thought she understood Jesus’ real message.

  10. This whole Doreen Virtue thing is strange. I’ve never really resonated with Doreen to begin with. Denouncing one’s past is like saying part of my life’s journey has been wrong and I definitely disagree. There’s a fear vibe about this whole thing with that old-time Christian right-wrong/good-bad/heaven/hell way of thinking. Change-growth-evolution-expansion-more are the mantras of the Universe. Trying to keep the world from that, as religion attempts to do, goes against natural laws. But oh well, that is an interesting path she is on and I wish her well.

    1. Sally, ever think that you just have a bias against Christians (being that you named-called and just mocked us).

    2. I don’t agree. Former addicts, adulterers, even criminals have shunned their former lives or “part of their life journey” as wrong. The problem here is that most people criticizing Doreen’s conversion follow her former path. They hold new age or neopagan beliefs and cannot fathom that someone’s spiritual journey would take them on such a surprising path. That is their own limitation. I cannot comment on the claims other commenters have made that Doreen “frauded” people out of money, as I know nothing about that. But to assert that a conversion from new age spirituality to Christianity is inherently backwards, unnatural, or even suspect shows no wisdom, only limitation. One only needs to watch the news and see that there is definite evil in the world: there is a definitive “good” and “evil.” This “love and light” jazz may work when you’re an outsider watching the spectacle of other people’s sufferings, but when it affects your own home or person, “love and light” sounds like the empty tripe that it is. I suggest reading the book “The Light that was the Dark: From New Age to Amazing Grace” by Warren B. Smith. With a little research, you will discover that Doreen’s journey is not that unusual. What is unusual is her fame as a new ager.

      1. Thanks for your comment Elise – I haven’t read that book, but I do agree that it is very common for people to shift their path part way through life. There is light and dark in our world and free will to choose the path you take. For me, Love and Light is not empty tripe though. I think it depends on the person saying it and their intention and presence in the moment of saying it. It can be a blessing to wish someone well. It is also a philosophy of choosing to channel your energy and intentions for good and be part of the force that shifts the balance away from the dark.

  11. Hi Dr. Lesley,

    I’m just curious about your training how are the teachings different from mainstream Christian teachings? It sounds like the activities generally associated with being a psychic and the teachings from the bible are not compatible for example in Deuteronomy 18:10-13 For example, never sacrifice your son or daughter as a burnt offering. And do not let your people practice fortune-telling, or use sorcery, or interpret omens, or engage in witchcraft, or cast spells, or function as mediums or psychics, or call forth the spirits of the dead. Anyone who does these things is detestable to the Lord. It is because the other nations have done these detestable things that the Lord your God will drive them out ahead of you. But you must be blameless before the Lord your God.
    Granted if you have been engaged or practiced these things there is always forgiveness through Jesus Christ but I dont think that condones the practices listed above. I dont mean this as an attack on your beliefs im really just wondering about your foundational teachings as a psychic christian. On your comment about us being children of God and how all of us are essentially projections of source. We as humans are the image bearers of God, as his image bearers we should reflect his attributes its because of sin that we fail to do this sin separates us from God. Jesus did not come to earth and awaken or become enlightened. He being the creator of all things emptied himself and came to earth as man and lived a sinless life to reconcile us all to God. He is not an ascended master or teacher of spiritual ideologies he is literally Lord of everything. He loves us and has paid a great price for people who may or may not ever recognize him as Lord. I think your beliefs on the authenticity of the bible are not founded we can not pick and choose what is true and what is not based on what we are comfortable with. Lastly, it may just be a typo in your article but the book of the bible “Revelation” is just that Revelation not Revelations. Im sure you will not allow this question/comment posted because my views differ highly than what your general readers views may be but i write it out of a want to understand and out of care and concern. Thanks!

    1. I can’t speak for the author’s upbringing and beliefs, but I would say that there is a long, long historical precedent for “Christian mysticism” (and also, which is more likely what the author is describing, of “Christian Hermeticism”). St Augustine was a Christian mystic, as were Thomas Aquinas and Padre Pio.

      In addition, some people believe that the Bible is a Materia Magica, giving the names of herbs and their uses (hyssop, frankincense) as well as the lyrics to entire “incantations” (David the psalmist’s songs, in particular). From Braucherei to Benedicaria, there is a very long tradition of explicitly-Christian folk magic. These customs absolutely fueled xenophobia and anti-Catholic sentiment among American Protestants, of course—even now, in the present day.

      The Bible clearly forbids speaking with the dead, yes (although I would note that “clairvoyance,” the gift of “long sight,” is something else). It warns us time and time again that soothsaying is not a replacement for wisdom, and to beware of charlatans and false prophets. On that: One of the gifts from the Holy Ghost is that of “spiritual discernment.” But the Bible also offers us an explicit test, no “fruit of the Spirit” necessary:

      “Beloved, do not believe every spirit, but test the spirits to see whether they are from God, for many false prophets have gone out into the world. By this you know the Spirit of God: every spirit that confesses that Jesus Christ has come in the flesh is from God, and every spirit that does not confess Jesus is not from God.” 1 John 4:1

      Christianity was, at a time, intrinsically magical—Daniel is a dream interpreter, Moses and Aaron battle Pharoah’s sorcerers, and prophets and miracle-workers abound—but with a theological undercurrent of “it’s not witchcraft if _I’m_ doing it!” It’s actually kind of funny.

      So yes, there are certainly those who believe that Christ is King, whose traditional, cultural, and Bible-based beliefs and practices have a “magickal bent.” Those people feel that their work is empowered by the Christian God. Are they mistaken? You may feel uncomfortable with their practice but, again, there is a long historical precedent for it.

  12. Hey everyone! Just for a moment ask yourself – maybe it’s true, she had a real encounter with Jesus and her conversion is truly a product of realizing Jesus truly is One with the Father- I had a similar experience a few years ago and know deep in my heart that Jesus is not just a man or a teacher but the Son of God who died and rose again !

    Sometimes a cigar is just a cigar..,.

    God bless you!

  13. Doreen has always been christian, this is obvious. She states “Paradise Lost is a novel, not biblical”, which is a clear implication that ‘the Bible’ (or all 1500+ versions) is ‘the word of God’; even though written and rewritten by humans over 1500 times, is a Christian notion.

  14. Doreen’s path is her own and not for people people to judge by picking parts of it they don’t like …
    Regardless the gift of psychic angel and Jesus connections remains and will continue despite how many teachers of it alter they’re life course.
    Doreen has served you all well who were students of her gift and now she made a life change to teach other students so be thankful .
    Continue to learn what it is you seek whether it’s angel connections or other and find it from whoever teaches it for however long you wish to learn it and let no one persecute you for it .

    Cheers

  15. Rick Warren in a “Purpose Driven Life” said something to the effect that Christianity is a way of life, not a religion and that has resonated with me ever since. Thank you Dr Lesley for your explanations about the developments in Dr Doreen Virtue’s life and the co-existence of Christianity and New Age concepts as well-your explanation resonated with me as well.

  16. I’ve never trusted her. She’s always looked like a nutcase, a child of abuse and a whack job.Intuitively, that’s a no from me. I’ve never read any of her books don’t know who she is and where is “the infamous video”??? I only know her from entering psychic bookstores and hers being on display and then her ads in the local psychic bookstore trade free papers. Never saw her on Oprah.

  17. I’ve had two full death encounters and have met Jesus in both encounters. First, at age 25 when I was in the Light and again at age 44, when I went through dying and travelled back into the Light and then to our Lord’s heaven, which exists as a separate pocket in the Light from this pocket of space we call the Universe.

    The whole thing I learned is located inside of God’s being of pure Light and made form the same substance of His (its) being. This knowledge is also located in the Bible if you know how to see the Bible from the perspective of the Light. I recently created a one hour video on youtube which might help you understand this simple absolute truth, if you wish to learn more. Here is the URL:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uYD5De4Q5eM&list=PLq4OQnC5T9TruupRuLLAq9I_YiheS1cnY&index=2

    When you know what I know, you will read the Bible in a whole grand different way versus how the living read the book. Also, both the Bible, the Quran and the books of the Jews are all tied together by the Pentateuch, the first five books Moses wrote which serve as introductory documents for all three major faiths, including the Mormon faith, making a fourth major faith with the same foundation in spite of the differing prophets which affect the beliefs of each faith.

    With that in mind, the following quote from this article is interesting to me, because most don’t understand the Bible who are among the living anyway which I learned in death. A lot poured into me when I was in the Light versus my talk with Jesus who came out of the Light to help me with the experience.

    “This may horrify some people, but I am going to say it anyway. Jesus was a healer and a psychic.”

    When you read the information in the Bible where it makes it clear that God was guiding the “begats” that lead to the making of His body, when He came to the Earth, understand that He was directing the pathway of His DNA in all those begats for 14 x 3 generations. The reason is his brain was not like the rest of us, but was programmed, so it could interact with the power of God’s being all around us, making up the creation, a creation made from the pure white Light of what God really is and also suspended inside the being we call God. This gave our Lord what we would call telekinetic ability to interact with the Light or Holy Spirit of God regarding the miracles He did on the Earth. The Bible makes it clear there are two ways, for instance, by which you can get healed: One through Jesus, if He so chooses, or you can do it yourself, if you can connect with the Light which is your source. This is reflected in the way Jesus often spoke in the Bible when someone was healed. Often He would say “Your faith has made you well”. All too true. In those cases, He did nothing to heal the person of their illness. The one who was sick or crippled simply tapped into their source and received the power that way so they could be well again. This explains why the Light told Thomas Mellan Benedict; “All of you have always had the power to heal yourselves. You have had it from the beginning”. This is supported by the Bible when you know how to read the book correctly. I had to die to see the book in the right way these days. All the more I don’t really associate with any of the religions on the planet because of what happened to me in the Light. All the religions are deficient of the real truth to what it all is and the absolute simplicity of what it all is. I’m glad to see Doreen Virtue is not too proud to admit she is still learning. This is why the living need to be careful when listening to the metaphysical teachers these days. I like Doreen Virtue’s Angel 101 book because there is a certain validity to that book in my experience with it, but that is a subject for another time. (chuckling)

    Jesus even told Glenda Green in her book LOVE WITHOUT END, that if he had married, He would have had gods for children….all with super powers. If he had married anyone, it would have been Mary Magdalene he told Glenda Green, because Mary greatly appreciated Jesus’s way of looking at things. During my years going through Catholic grade schools, this thought had been brought up in one of my religious studies classes as to who He would have married, if He had married and what the kids would be like if they had, had any. It was supposed back in those days some 45 years ago that His kids would all have super powers. The evidence is in the Bible when you understand the 14 x 3 begats leading to the creation of the human body He would use while He was on the Earth. A lot poured into me from the Light at age 25, but I preferred not to talk about all of this as a scholar, artisan and scientist most of my life. I’m now age 61 having been through a lot in one lifetime.

    When you look at the powers Jesus displayed, from levitation of His body on water, helping the healing of the sick and dying with His ability to connect to the Light as a man, to instantaneous duplication of mass and matter with the loaves and fishes, Jesus was not just what we would call a psychic and healer, but a wizard by Harry Potter type standards. Still the use of those type of words with the Christian Church is considered sacrilege to their way of thinking. The problem with this whole thing is in the use of syntax when describing the one main truth of it all you will learn when you die. Each person’s wording is what is creating the confusion with those who are seeking answers to the whole mess.

    In death, I learned there is only one simple reality to what the whole thing is about. It’s so simple a child could understand it. However, the world tends to garbage up each other’s thinking with syntax problems when describing all of this simple stuff. This is what is at the heart of the differing faiths arguing with each other too, even when you go past the simple message of the gospel in scholastic conversation of Jesus. Having been in the midst of it all in death, I have no problem understanding what it is all about at my current age. But the living tend to get trapped in the fight over words in this world I’ve learned and the result is a lot of unnecessary fighting and hate through the syntaxing of wording in all the arguments.

    You also have to see that the Bible is not complete by any means. John 21:25 makes that clear when looking at the book as a collective work. John makes it clear the Earth could not hold all the books capturing all the Jesus did, let alone what he said. So in truth, 66 documents does not cut it. This was known in scholastic circles when I was attending Loyola University back in the 1970’s. All the more we use to call the Bible “Basic Instructions Before Leaving Earth”, while knowing the book was not holy or complete, but full of holes which are easy to prove if you are travelling scholarly circles. The book is constructed more like swiss cheese when you can see the deficiencies, but that does not mean the deficiencies discredit the substance that is there in the pages that make up the current day book. I’m not saying these things to side with the devil, who I learned in the Light is quite real, but to help bring peace to those who are fighting each other over the contents of the book as a collective work.

    We are now living in a more enlightened time because of mass media and the internet. As such, the sharing of insightful questions is more readily available to the masses and these are questions that need answers to them if the Church is to even understand all the NDE testimonies occurring all over the net from those of us who have been dead and have much to share with world that is literally stuck in a spiritual rut these days.

  18. Interesting article.
    I met her in the 90’s at the first Denver New Age Convention open to the trade.
    Her aura was different, very bright. As I saw her in person over several years, her aura changed as well as her energy and I decided not to buy any of her products.
    Too bad.

    1. I also met her at INATS around 2006 & had the same experience.. her energy field was amazingly high & bright at the time

  19. Nice article on Doreen Virtue. I was at a lecture of her’s at Awakenings Bookstore in the 1990s in Laguna Hills, Ca. I liked her energy and I have bought a number of her books and several of her angel decks.
    As for her conversion to conservative Christianity, her choice. She probably needed a rest. And, her books referred a lot about Highly Sensitive People, which she was one. Only so much energy we can Take. I will not judge her. I wish her well. And, I too, am looking at some previous religious roots, I have as well.

    Thank you, Dr. Lesley. Nice to know you are living in Vancouver, Canada. My cousins live there. And my parents roots are for Canada. I like Canadians.

    Also appreciated response from Kevin Montague. Wondering whether he is familiar with Eben Alexander’s nde experience? Very interesting. Thank you Mr. Montague for sharing about your bee’s.
    Noreen S.

  20. Hi Lesley,
    Thank you for your article on Doreen Virtue which was interesting. I have read some of the comments and sorry for those who may have lost some money on her account.
    I came across her conversion to Christianity just the other day (sorry I’m in the late phrase). You see, I am always seeing 3 consecutive numbers and I am sure others may have to. So I googled what does 333 mean and clicked her link since I am familiar with her after reading her books and bought her Angels Oracle cards in the past. But this is what Ms Virtue mentions about angel numbers
    “states that “Spirit guide” are not protective helpful angels. When they actually exist, they are disguised demons attempting to use us into sin or destruction. Interacting with demonic guides is expressly forbidden in the Bible”. As for her cards or tarot cards etc., she says that they aren’t always safe, because demons often use them as doorways to pull us away from God.
    Ms. Virtue also says that the Bible says the the devil masquerades as of light. The fallen angels are demons who oppress people and try to control them away from God’s will. We must be very discerning about angels.
    So here is my questions, I have been following Melanie Beckler at Ask-Angels.com for about a year or so. She provides many messages that she channels with the angels. After hearing every session, I feel recharged, blessed with love and so much peace. While the angels are speaking on releasing fear, past hurt etc, I actually see the white light around me and feel at peace. So it if isn’t the angels making feel this way, what is it? The devil??
    Also, there are times that I sense and know when a person is going to call me or know what they are going to say before they say, among other things. Does that make my a evil person, a witch like some may say haha. I do think that we all have some kind of psychic abilities and we can all be attuned to using them.

    Leslie, in your article you mentioned that God doesn’t look like most of the paintings and movies. I strongly agree with you. The reason I agree is because I have a 11 year old grandson who claims to see Jesus in his dreams and states that Jesus has short hair. My grandson shared so many stories of his dreams and some are so mind-blowing because he talks about things that occurred before he was born. He always but always says that he is in a dream being here with us because he feels at peace and so much love with Jesus in his dreams. I know it sounds so bizarre but wanted to share this with you. When he was younger he would always see the white light around him which would scare him because he didn’t know what it was. As he gotten older he has learned that it is here to help him in some way and not hurt him.
    What does all this white light mean; does it also make him evil?
    Would appreciate reading comments but please not bashing comments for we are here to help each other and the other opposite.
    Thank you Lesley, I look forward to hearing from you!

    1. Dear Jaqueline

      Thank you for sharing your thoughts and concerns.

      1. Card Decks – they are tools. How do you want to use the tool? For light or dark purposes? They can be doorways to connect with spirit. Whether you attract dark or light is up to you. Whether you choose to anchor light or dark is up to you’ not the card deck. You are powerful beyond belief not weak and vulnerable. You get to choose God and Light. The idea you are a weak vulnerable human is an illusion.

      2. Angels and Demons – if your intention is to anchor light, operate from love and communicate with the highest beings of light and if you heal yourself and clear what isn’t in alignment with the light then you will attract benevolent helpers and will not be an attraction point for darkness. If you operate from fear and get into resistance you may attract lower energies until you learn how to manage your vibration.

      3. Jesus – my Jesus has short hair too! He is available to everyone and we can each have our own relationship with him and perception of what he looks like! Are there beings that would fool you and pose as benevolent beings – sure there are, but you don’t need to be fooled by them or vulnerable to them. The more you meditate and know yourself as spirit, the more you will learn how powerful you are and the more discerning you will become. The more you believe in yourself and love yourself and others the less vulnerable you will be.

      4. Consecutive numbers – these are awakening codes. They help you stop, take notice, move into the present moment and give you validation about your spiritual path.

      5. White Light. Christ Force energy is gold; supreme being energy is clear light because it contains all frequencies of light. So it depends – is he seeing clear light and calling it white? Or is he actually seeing white? Is his energy stuck or is it flowing? There isn’t 1 meaning for any color it depends. The stuck energy of fear can appear white to my clairvoyant vision; as can the white of purity and peace.

      I hope that helps

      Love Lesley

  21. Thank you, this was a really beautiful and well written article. The challenge in being a public figure is that everyone wants you to be their mascot, and I think Doreen has definitely experienced that. I don’t think any of us should be under the constant pressure of having to represent a spirituality “Brand”. Because we are all individual and all on our own journey.

    My personal truth is that I have experienced Jesus in a very personal way, and I have also had psychic experiences my entire life. The pressure from both sides to denounce the other is frustrating and creates stress for those who want to live in spiritual truth/integrity. To deny your experience is the worst form of soul betrayal, whether it pertains to experiences with Jesus or psychic experiences.

    This is why I pray for God’s will to be done, the will of the source of all creation, because it cuts through all the “noise”, and liberates me from fear of “doing it wrong” from a spirituality perspective.

    Once again, thank you for a very thoughtful article.

    1. Very well said! The two are not mutually exclusive at all.
      My psychic abilities are highly developed and I communicate with Jesus all the time!

      1. Exactly! These things can coexist; the division is only an illusion that is perpetuated by the power structure of 3D programming. Like the Journey song, “I’m just a 5D girl, livin’ in a 3D world….” lolol. I hope you are well and having a lovely weekend <3

  22. Of course someone’s spiritual journey is their sacred personal business. A lot of bible based Christians are using this situation like their team won the league, which is off putting in its arrogance and pride. But to me the most important questions a) what is going on with her rescue shelter, from which she used to film weekly card readings and on which she lived and with many many presumably rescue animals? Is she still living there? Are the animals also there? Wh did that part of her work suddenly go black ops? And b) why is there such obfuscation around the money made from pre conversion card decks etc. many are still available and while statements have been made about the acquittal of those royalties. They are vague and unconvincing. Ditto with her accreditation for courses. If you denounce something publicly for which you’ve previously accredited paying clients, they have a moral right to a refund for a now useless certification.

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  23. I believe there is a dark and light side to all religions, including the new-age. As a psychic, I admit that as much as spirituality has helped people, there are times I’ve witnessed how it has made people sick or even caused them to break with reality. Too much playing with energy, vibrations, and kundalini without really knowing what they are doing. And too much focus on abundance, money, and labels (indigo, star child etc) and an attitude of force and entitlement with the law of attraction.

    When people start using Law of Attraction like one would use a spell to try to manipulate an ex to return or to avoid change, then it becomes an issue. Its like no one knows how to recognize boundaries anymore or when its time to move on from something and law of attraction is used to try to force. Psychic abilities are all geared toward self-gain with “oneness” being a nice footnote.. And I wish all these issues were just an occasional occurrence but its something I’ve talked about with other psychics and even other psychics will state most of their clients are unstable or delusional. Yet, the instability is encouraged or said nothing about for whatever reason, fear of censure or monetary reasons.

    A friend of mine who has had financial difficulties for two years (going broke and now 50,000 in debt he can’t repay) at least once a month he draws the abundance card or has a dream and tells me it means he will win the lottery. He’s psychic, he needs to trust his intuition, he tells me. I had another friend fall for the dinar dollar scam and even after learning it was a scam he kept spending money on it because the abundance card was telling him to. I’ve know people who use angel cards or see 11:11 and think the guy who played them, used them, is a sex addict, etc is their twin flame. I’ve never seen so much infidelity justified in the name of psychic readings or twin flames. I feel most of my job as a psychic is trying to get people to get back to having some way to test their reality, have a sense of values, or to let go of excessive self-entitlement. Its like the dark side of the new age is making people delusional, get-rich-quicky, excessively self-involved, and narcissistic. Just feels like people are so lost and the more they search for themselves in the new age and get sucked into all the ego-draws of fulfillment, the more lost they become. Shhhhh no one say anything though because it might not be positive.

    I think the solution is to just use more discretion when working with the psychic or spiritual realms and to keep grounded. Keep focusing on the advice of the masters without joining anything that seems like a cult. Jesus walked the desert to find the truth and early pre-constantine Christians followed this example, sometimes joining together in monasteries. There needs to be more quiet. Too many ideas, too much entitlement, too much of too much, so that there needs to be a falling back, away from so much extremism into something more balanced and quiet.

  24. Gosh, this is not the first time I have heard of this negation of previous convictions by a “guru”. It is strange, perhaps it would have been wiser for DV to fade gently into the background instead of hurting so many people who seemed to be ardent followers. Nearly all gurus are human and have feet of clay. I follow my own path so in many ways am a true spiritual worker and work behind the scenes never wanting the world stage because of this reason. It seems shady to me, very much confusing, yet not surprising. Kindness is the one true religion. I never subscribed to the Angel stuff fully although am aware it comforted many. We all have the ability to access the Divine ourselves. We don’t really need intermediaries. Change of direction is not unusual in itself especially for middle aged women who have been world servers yet it is not so much why but how a thing is done which makes the difference. It is the meek not the weak who will inherit the earth. If there is unfairness and skullduggery DV will reap as she sows. The higher power will take care of the situation. The Soul
    pulls the plug if the physical body is not conforming to its plan. There are more things in heaven and earth than are dwelt of in our philosophy. Hope she’s not upset too many people and is not too upset herself at finding out that she was not what she thought she was. Love and life, love and learn, live and learn.

  25. Doreen embraced the New Age cult only to become a victim of cultism involving herself with consequences affecting her ego-self. Hers is/was a genuine gift (from God) yet which failed to save her from experiencing six marriages and New Age cults.
    Doreen has showed many how to directly connect with the angelic world but which, for her, ended there. She appears not to have understood angels as servants of the Creator, but rather as self-sufficing for human needs. HER angels have finally guided her to God, the reason and source of her existence. Maybe she has mistakenly discarded some of her valid previous beliefs while retaining some erroneous ones in her born-again religious enthusiasm.
    Prayer and meditation can achieve the same results, but require discipline, patience and faith. Cards give can give immediate, dynamic, graphic and verifiable results!
    Skydancer
    (Gayle, Perth, WA)

  26. Thank you Rev. Dr. Lesley Phillips. This article is beautiful. I referenced it on my own FB Metaphysics page because I feel very much in alignment with you and your awareness. I am very happy I found you. Thank you again.

  27. I am so shocked (in a good way) by the content you provided in this article. This is an amazing work and brings so much light into my heart. I love Doreen Virtue deeply, I only wish to see her happy like she was before all this changes happened. I am glad to understand that there is a deep healing going on inside of her. May God bless her and bless you for sharing so much light.

    Thank you

  28. Deep breaths everyone less judgment. I attended numerous angel workshops in Australia with Doreen and they were fun. I never agreed with all her views and at times had self caution and choose different methods. I am an adult I choose what I wanted from her knowledge and used my own intuition. Theory and education move and change regularly it’s my belief Doreen she very entitled to her changed views.
    We should always question ourselves with our spiritual thoughts and enlightenments and always continue to grow. It was always about god ( angels are gods messengers) . Ask the divine yourself can I continue asking angels yourself ? if you get the answer yes, then that’s it ask the angels. If they want you to go in a different direction you will get that advice. We are all on different journeys and vibrational levels.
    What I do believe is they want us to work with less ego and more service.
    I will ask the divine and all of the beautiful angels to support and comfort the people that are confused or disappointed in her. Please don’t be angry she was just a woman that tried to improve the planet. Be grateful and always remember don’t follow meditate and find your truth no someone else’s.

  29. I have always adored Doreen for her beautiful books and decks she has written through Divine guidance and inspiration with good intention and heart. I feel she was following her path then and continues even now. I think it is safe to say how is easy it can be for any of us to get overwhelmed in our paths and journeys. There may be times where drastic measures are needed in our experiences to create a clearer understanding of the whole and that of ourselves. Therefore, I would never judge her or any soul for the choices they make, as it is their personal journey to explore and learn. Just because we may not always agree or understand the undertakings of others… it is perfectly ok. We are not meant to, for we are living our paths, not others.

    Thus, I bless Doreen wholly with much love and light for all she has shared with us. Beloved Dr Lesley, thank you for your beautiful take on this whole experience with the article you have written. I agree with much of what is written. We are all of one Divine Source. Jesus shared with us the way of healers and mediumship as we all have the same abilities which are given by God/Source/Higher Power. It is true, we are not to use the resources of books, cards, crystals, etc. as being the way and reasons for us (For it then resembles using the magic 8 ball to solve all our problems and solutions, only to create more confusion and perhaps chaos). Rather we can allow these resources to act as a tool to help connect us Divinely to God/Father Creator/Angels of guidance, and our authentic self (much like the bible does for people of Christian Faith) for the greater purpose of self and the whole.

  30. Im just curious if you all think that her old works that she has condemned are still valuable and if the information she had gotten for those are correct. Im very interested in some of her books, especially those on earth angels, but the fact that she no longer believes in them makes me nervous about their validity and I’m curious about the opinions of others on that topic?

    1. Hi Jasmine, the person whose opinion matters most to you is yours. If you are drawn to her books, then trust that your inner wisdom is guiding you to relevant information for you, for where you are on your personal journey. When Doreen Virtue wrote her books, she believed in them at the time and that expression of self her authentic focus. Now she may have moved to a different focus, but that doesn’t mean that it isn’t relevant for you right here, right now. Everyone is different. What resonates with you and is correct with you could be the opposite to someone else. There is no one correct answer that works for everyone. We are unique individuals with unique journies. I did not agree with everything she wrote, even before her transformation, but that doesn’t mean it wasn’t valuable information for the people who resonated with it. I hope that helps. The books and cards are not right or wrong. They are not evil or good. The cards are tools. The books offer a perspective, which may or may not be relevant to you. I hope that helps – Dr. Lesley

  31. I went to a Radleigh Valentine workshop in the Denver area this past weekend. When I searched his name online on YouTube, I was surprised to find out about Doreen Virtue renouncing her new age mentality, Hay House, etc. Then I found this website. I wish her well.

  32. It’s not my job to judge anyone else’s choice of path. I send many blessings to Doreen on her path, as she is at liberty to choose. May we all find a path that our soul resonates with deeply.

  33. I know you mean well, but I would be more careful about performing healing on others unless permission in given. Although the immediate effects look good we cannot see the long term effects if the healing and exchange of energy is not asked for.

    1. Hello, I agree permission must always be received before performing healing work. It’s also important to never use your own personal energy; instead, use neutral energy from Source. Because all healing is self-healing, a healer is acting as a catalyst. The energy is given to the healee for them to use as they choose. If you are reading this, you might wonder how a healer can get permission without physically asking? The answer is by communicating as spirit.

  34. There is many issues wrong in this article. It stems from the presupposition that according to you the Bible has no credibitlity, the Bible is fallible and not the Authoritative Divine word of God, according to your theory it been corrupted and the true Bible hasn’t been preserved, as if God would let man tamper with his word, so you give Authority to your INTUITON of what the Bible is supposed to say and what God really means, as a result there are many issues that are wrong with your interpretation of the Bible because you choose to elevate yourself to the Divine Authority of Truth by clairvoyance, when God has revealed himself, his true essence, his Divine authority to us in ever word of the bible. The word of God is incorruptible , the Bible says his word is refined 7 times over, the word is as pure as it get. If you really want to be nderstand her, then stop elevating yourself to God, the devil comes as an angel or force of light, try to come into a relationship with the truth God by accepting the truth he reveals to us in every word of God in the Bible then you will understand what she went through

  35. I went to Doreen’s courses when she did public psychic readings they were crap and she’d just ignore people who disagreed with her readings and keep talking or move onto someone new. She was very much fake. If you look into her background it’s all smoke and mirrors you can’t find the college she went to, you can’t substantiate much of any of it. she calls herself a therapist but the places she refers to as giving her qualification no have no record of her. I met her twice and she’s very much a narcissist whose focused on money. It’s not surprising that she’s turning on her own fans these days it’s harder to be a public figure and lie you get caught out fast. She’s not a terrible person but she’s largely been fostering a personna for money. I did her course twice till I realised it was actually the reiki that I was enjoying not the actual course and I moved on. It’s sad to hear she raised money for animals and then closed the ranch. I’m not surprised she stopped doing psychic readings they weren’t her forte. I doubt it’s her present partners idea to change she appeared quite capable of choosing her own direction. I get the impression that this is more about moving herself away from her new age fans and creating a new persona doubt it will make her any happier. She didn’t seem that happy when I met her.

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    1. Hi Jessica – I haven’t written about this anywhere else. I would recommend developing your own clairvoyance. Then if that is an interest of yours, you can read, translate the symbolism and understand it directly for yourself. I have some great courses for clairvoyant development. Contact me again if you are interested in them.

  37. While I personally use various avenues of receiving spiritual guidance, I am cautious as I want to tune into the purist energy that I am capable of achieving. I personally resent Christians who claim that the old ways of divination are evil. However, my biggest concern with situations like DV’s situation is when she or others like her claim to have “knowledge,” benefit monetarily from that “knowledge,” then claim their “knowledge” has changed and then create a new fan base with their newfound “knowledge.” I am all supportive of people changing their belief system and changing their personal path. Personal experiences lead to beliefs, which can change. True knowledge does not change. I read a lot of things, and I take what fits with my own personal experiences and beliefs as well as hope to be open to new beliefs, but not when anyone claims to have knowledge. Who’s to say that someone’s new “vision of Christ” was not a false vision (darkness appearing as light) or however Christians put it. I think my biggest problem is with “psychics, “gurus,” or Christian “prophets” who claim to have knowledge, financially benefit from it, then change their minds, and then profit on their knew “knowledge.” I have a hard time getting through any book cover to cover (including the Bible) because in my reading I am continually feeling, “No, that is not how it is.” Plus, I have met people who can write really well and promote themselves but do not live the way they profess. This pertains to people with all spiritual inclinations. I can accept they have “beliefs.” I cannot accept they have “knowledge” that changes when life gets tough.

  38. Well shared. You have so many comments already, many seeking outside themselves instead of tuning in again to their higher intuition. I see similar as “you” on this topic. Managing free will is about experience and experimentation. Sometimes experienceing something old as new again is a means to breakthrough certain veils. I listened to some of Doreen’s new shares, she is still inspired a bit by higher consciousness. It is, however, coming through a different filter now. These are important experiences for her at this time. We all need to find and look at the selves and spirits filtering our vision; this is an individual journey back into oneness. Thank you for parking balanced energy on this topic!

  39. Wow. I am somewhat astonished to read all this about Doreen Virtue. Living in the UK I had no idea until a chance comment I read in a Spiritual magazine here in the UK of her complete turnaround and from what I’ve read here it appears that Doreen Virtue has duped an awful lot of people over many years. Not to mention taken their money. I have a couple of packs of her angel and archangel oracle cards and truly believed in her guidance notes but now I feel completely taken for a ride. I have seen lots of adverts for Conferences etc run by Hay House for the likes of Doreen Virtue in different capital cities around the world – all tremendously expensive to attend – and I have always felt that these people who are participants of Hay House conferences where just on a money making exercise. Some of these conferences were more than £500 to attend! If they have the means or ‘knowledge’ to ‘help’ people overcome the hard stuff of life why do they charge such a lot of money to pass that knowledge on? They write copious books all at least £10 each to buy but at the end of each book you realise that they have said exactly the same thing as the previous book they wrote. Well… my questions have been answered… the only purpose is to make money and help them, not make the world a better place for you. Doreen has successfully proven that she was a complete fraud all along. I shall no longer have a use for any of the marterial I have bought in her name nor will I believe a word she has to say and will no longer follow her.

  40. We each choose our paths, and choose which lessons to learn from them. So whatever Doreen wishes to do is not my business. But I was surprised to hear that it is unusual for spirituality – in the form of healing, psychometry, tarot and similar readings and messages etc – and Jesus to be mixed. For me, he is my best mate, but I don’t rate the bible much at all. I regard the bible as written by man, not God, and I don’t accept it as a guideline for Christianity. Jesus is that guideline. My ‘new age’ spirituality and mediumship go hand in hand with Jesus, and God, and angels, and it feels right to me. Dr. Lesley, I really enjoyed your write up and explanation.

    1. Thank you Sue – I agree there is no conflict between having a relationship with the spiritual master Jesus and any belief system including “New Age” spirituality. He didn’t create religion, humans did that. He delivered information to help all of us evolve, and the best relationship any of us can have with him (or any other mater teacher, and God/Source energy) is a direct one that isn’t filtered through anyone else’s doctrine or belief. Developing your psychic abilities (which are divine communication, because they are the way we communicate as spirit) helps us have that direct relationship.

  41. I´m not so worried about Doreen. I´m worried about those 300 animals who lived in her animal farm. And to whom she collected money. Where are those innocent creatures now and what happened to them? How did she used those moneys? We human, we can take care of ourselves but animals depen on us. So Dr Lesley I´m waiting your next article where you will tell what happened to those animals. I´m not so interested ofDoreen anymore. Annamari Nurminen, Finland

  42. This was a beautiful, informed, kind and wise analysis. I hope it will be shared widely. It’s the most balanced and helpful review I have seen on this personal decision of Doreen’s.

    Thank you. Thank you so much. I didn’t know about Doreen or her work but her conversion which I came across recently has inspired me to go back to bible study and Jesus as the core.

    I am incredibly grateful for this enlightenment.

  43. Well written, compassionate article. I’ve seen some of her videos since becoming a Christian and she does seem calmer, I feel like she is happier now. As you said, more grounded. I followed her for a while back years ago but after a while it seemed to me that she was trying too hard, so I stopped following her. I think she had good intentions but the business of being Doreen Virtue perhaps got in the way. At any rate, I wish her well and I hope she has found peace.

  44. Have you read the book: Jesus, an Autobiography by Tina Louise Spaulding? It states she communicated with Jesus about how he studied how to heal. He never saif he was the son of God but as you said, “God like”. It talks about the times before his ministry, where he went, who he loved and met etc. I would like to know your thoughts on this if you read it? If you didn’t, try reading it……the book definitely captures attention to the teachings about Jesus today!

  45. Well I am sorry to say But I got into looking at Tarot cards on youtube and actually only own one deck of tarot cards and they are from Doreen and I am not even sure How I came into contact with these cards which are signed! I thought that was pretty cool . Anyway to be very Honest with you I think she stopped using these cards cause like all tarot they are Evil. Since the time I started watching tarot readings on you tube and getting into The Law Of attraction or Universe what ever you want to call it the New age stuff I started feeling a way. My new way is going to be GOD only! So I am happy to read that she no longer uses these cards and I will be getting rid of this deck I have in my house as well. Good for her and GOD bless her and I hope and pray God Opens some more eyes up to seeing this is a good thing!

  46. Dr. Lesley, I am Elaine Shoemaker and lead by my inner intuition I ended upon your response to What happen to Doreen Virture Ph.D?. Reading your words were so uplifting and inspiring as I related so to your very words as to her awareness of the winds of change in her on celestial awakening and how best as a public figure to reach for her need in healing balanced with her followers needs. Plus, the adjustment and trusting of our own inner power and guidance and that of the Master example to us all. I want to avail myself of your service and presently making changes in my life so that I can pay the cost necessary to fund the physical needs earned by each of us by our own choices in our journeys that ‘touch’. May The Blessings Be Always M.E. [ MY full name: Martha Elaine Shoemaker or Elaine Crouch Shoemaker on Facebook]

  47. Hi Lesley, I am just getting on board with ‘new age’ spirituality, I grew up in church with parents as leaders and when I hit 20 I threw the baby out with the bathwater. I practiced nothing until I hit 30 and started looking again. I came across what we term new age and it opened my heart a little and I realised how much I missed having a spiritual journey. I find myself praying to God along with Source and reading parts of the bible again, but I also combine it with other mediums like using intuition/dreams, smudging, angel cards etc. I saw a video of Doreen on Gaia and thought her message was beautiful, then I went to her site and was a little shocked to read her recent change of heart, it felt very heavy, so did the response from her previous community. Anyway, a few sites later I ended up here reading your article. You’re the first person I have come across (since restarting this journey) that is combining, and respecting both practices and asking the world to allow everyone their own path. I don’t have words for how special your attitude and approach is and how it has made me feel tonight as I read this. I wanted you to know. Thank you. x

  48. Great article. I checked Doreen’s one page and the leading article says that she realized that there is a hell and people go there unless they are saved by Jesus.

    Having been through the atheist, Christian and now my own perspective (always the best one) I think one’s outlook is often determined by fear. Anyone warning people of hell is often operating from a fear based outlook, which isn’t a judgement – it’s just a very limited place to be.

    As for understanding why people having NDE’s do see hell, it’s because we create our own reality when we cross over and fear of the dying process could leak over into what we manifest at that time. I recommend watching the Archangel Lucifer interview on the Shiny Show in YT to understand more.

    All I can suggest is that people read read read read read and listen to reputable channels on YouTube to get a broad perspective to draw conclusions from – which should always be their own and based in love.

    God didn’t create us with free will just to damn us to hell if we didn’t do his will. Those are human emotions, not of spirit.

    There are also beautiful Jesus interviews with the real Jesus who explains how many times the Bible has been altered as a means of power and control, which also uses fear.

    It’s all part of Doreen’s journey but I am sure she will be happy when she goes home and realizes that there is nothing to fear. Personally the Christian doctrine left me feeling that if those I loved weren’t coming with me to heaven, I would rather go to hell.

    Thankfully, hell is the fear and negative based realty we can experience here.

    There is nothing to fear but fear itself 🙂

  49. The new age movement has veered off into cult of personality …. Which is and has been the trend of humans since the dawn if history, eg, to look outside themselves even to guides and angels much less equally fallible human beings. The greats like Christ and buddha taught that each of us is indivisible from divine source, and it’s in our own soil of self to let go of all that stands in the way of pure lovingkndness towards all of life, period. That said. My heart goes out to the millions who get taken and robbed by all sorts of gurus because they gave their authority and common sense away… Rather than being aware of the world’s inauthentic adherence to matter and Status When the entire Point of enlightened awareness is the seeing to the Reality that the Inlay Wealth which is durable is conscious awareness and that consciousness Trumps matter — matter Being Nothing but Belief plus Form-Perception. …. As for Ms virtue’s public statements, as a person trained in the legal letters, and having heard her mention she got in trouble with tax authorities, every word she speaks can simply be a desire to establish an identity which matches professed innocence on possible criminal tax evasion charges. I know if I were her lawyer, I would have told her to do exactly what she decided to, which was to present a squeaky clean image and play the part of crying ‘I sinned’ christian. It is clear that she is up to her eyeballs in potential fraud charges for charging fees which include licensure rights, only to withdraw from those rights. If she wants to be christian, then she may wish to consider honoring her obligations. I see no exemption in the Good Book for the taking of what is not freely given, and people paying tuition and fees not getting the contracted upon value have in fact suffered a taking which doreen at law is not entitled to have done. So… It seems like her outward display of humility is another form of narcissism… The covert kind of which Christ warned…. That some sheep walk in wolf clothes. That is not to condemn her…it’s to note that some personalities cannot help but belie dark corners and if they do, perhaps remaining silent and reflective is where their greatest spiritual contribution to society can arise. Certainy, it is not to join the long list of charlatans that con the innocent, many choose other than spiritual disguise to do their work. Maybe less funds to spiritualism is how to end the rape of public trust so sadly the norm in today’s world. Sitting in meditation facing a brick wall is free of charge, and where we all can go to get to us core honesty, free of the imagined illusory notions and circles in which hope, fear, need and greed yet drive the unconscious recesses of human existential status, and which are the real topics that no one ever seems to want to face right in the center of their own unconscious. Perhaps some are less in touch with the duty to confront their shadow before making millions and not ignoring taxes. Seems like that character trait requires more than tears and some videos because spirit does not overlook morality in its truth or greatest expression. And that is what believing mind loves to overlook…. Like attracts like. But light does not walk in or around tarot decks. It doesn’t walk or talk at all. And it doesn’t see anything to do in particular or teach either. It simply is the silence that conveys infinite peace. Nothing needs to change other than the ego and the entire mindset that is married to material form as real and substantial. Forget knowing anything! Live each breath as if it is a lifetime and you will be more wealthy than all you could have imagined. That’s all any needs to know, my two cents. Sorry, but, give no money to new age causes as donations. The Red Cross saves lives and has evidence of doing so, and isn’t that a spiritual goodness? Any two bit smooth talker can create a deck of cards and suddenly gets hero worship? Let go and trust. Live in witnessing of all that arises inside to contradict what arises or arose a second earlier… That keeps a person nice and aware of their realer issues. And once you go aware, you don’t ever go back to being a sheep for any talking head again. Never mind cards! Life doesn’t need tarot cards to be fulfilled and happy. Lose the things which are unhappy within and then you find happiness. It takes about three minutes to accomplish and three minutes later, it is back, but keep working it. It’s free and it leads to very important realizations about what it is to be alive and human. Then when human is all nice and aligned without cognitive dissonance and major blind spots, spirit is what is lived, alive and talking, and not just a topic of discussion or some form of entertainment. No offense to any intended, just brutally honest about the level of self- delusion that CAN and DOES quack like a spiritualism duck and is really not different than internal hypocrisy. Love does not neglect to dignify and honor … And if any had been handled the way cons handle things when their fraud tents collapse, it is incontrovertible evidence that she was only ever a fraud to begin with. You can be a class act and still change and grow without leaving your contractual obligations to fall flat and cry to the IRS about poverty after earning millions of dollars. People simply love to rescue the ones who abuse their trust…. It is a known side effect of being prior victims of abused trust, and that’s the saddest part. Never trust other than what comports with hard core common sense and you can’t get defrauded. Never leave home without meditating on the silence which shows how hope and fear play out to bring us painful outer lessons because the personal mind is not the mind of God, and yet still operates exactly as it does, I. It’s u healed suffering, until we face our dark corners which only we can do. And when we do, we become our own best and most helpful teachers. That is where we find the back door to our higher awareness. Not by running out or away from the hidden shadows. But directly into them, to find out why we need to give up so much of our own conscious power in order to feel better. Namaste, and every blessing to all whose trust and faith were abused. Maybe this message helps? Been there myself. That’s how I can write this way about it. Many people will say and do anything for power, wealth, assets or recognition. The ones who look the most sincere are the ones you are well advised to skip over. And not all tarot card creators become celebrities and create workshops that sound roundly in BS!!! My friend was a certified DV person and she tried to do a realm reading and in two seconds, I asked her a straightforward question that she was totally unable to answer, because all the material she could reference also made no sense. So it was just a lovely snow job for folks who don’t have the slightest critical mind. Be critical!!! Critical mind is how you penetrate snow job and get to the truth underlying existence, never mind some realm nonsense! Hahahah I didn’t have the heart to tell my friend she was being robbed, and lo…. 12 mos later, the DV circus tent folded up. And she will rob the Christians also… They’re perfect fuel for narcissistic wolves who know exactly how to bilk for a buck. It’s par for the course. Get savvy! Meditation mats are cheap and never let a person down!!! Hehehe

  50. I have always liked Doreen ‘s writer’s voice and I do like her angel cards.I first became acquainted with her when my ex husband got custody of my kids. She had written a book: My Kids Don’t Live Here Anymore. She gave me hope and a big hug at a conference that I went to. Her angel card readings have helped me through many a sleepless night, as have her guided meditations. I just look at her as going through spiritual growth. I wouldn’t want a refund for any of the things that I have bought from her. We are following a similar pathway. I AM currently working on Bible Study, myself.

  51. Hi thank you for this. I’m struggling only with her website, that states why you should, not practice these listed choices.
    I wrote this to her. But she blocked me. I’m not hating her or her beliefs. I’m only asking her to be careful, what she chooses to say about other people’s beliefs & should respect everyone’s beliefs.

    ❤️ Dear Doreen I come With only love ,Peace ,Light & Concern,
    You once helped & opened peoples, minds to the so called “New Age” way , with these cards. Now, you say ,Jesus is the only way & your website has practices ,you must avoid and why. People trusted in your words once & still make money of it & influence a whole generation.Because you are only trying to spread the Word of Jesus, they will believe you again. So, why not just do that & not insult , ancient practices, from different parts of the world with different faiths & beliefs & gods. We all live here together on Planet Earth & come from different parts of the World. We must all spread love & Respect for each other, not insult or steer people’s faiths, just because of one’s views or vision’s .You are influential to some, so why not , speak only words of the Bible, like many others do, without creating disheartening messages on your web page, about different faiths & practices. Mental Health is something ,we all should mindfully consider, not everyone in this world, has a platform like yours, but you do & in my humble opinion can be a disservice & distraction to our service in this world & to each other. Spread love & Harmony and Jesus’s word, without pointing fingers at different practices & faiths & what once what you believed. No, I’m not the work of the devil or evil or any form of darkness. I’m a loving Human, that see’s only good in what you’re trying to do, No I don’t use these cards nor do I believe in pointing fingers to Other believers of different faiths, please continue to consider your words, on your website . Be the right influence. ♥️ Amen

  52. I have also done one of Doreen’s courses and received my certificate of completion. I guess I can now scrap it. It was on a cruise so I got to see her every day for 12 days and by the end of the cruise, unfortunately I did not have much respect left for her. She would not let anyone get near her without someone else being between them. With every photo session, she was surrounded by her “minders” so that no one would hug her in a photo. It was very disappointing to see. One of the crew on the ship lost his job because she put in a complaint about him. The crew were trying their best to please everyone and most were relying on their job to send money to their families. She behaved just like a movie star the whole trip. She even publicly wiped the microphone every time someone passed it on to her. By the end of the cruise, many were disillusioned and disappointed by her manner. I stopped following her after the cruise and just found out about her transformation through a friend. I’m very disappointed but not surprised by all that I’ve read.

  53. Unfortunately so many Christians get a bible and then read a line that was translated and then changed from the original to fit the needs of the publisher, like King James who had an agenda. I translated that line she quoted from the original Hebrew. It refers to necromancers, those who deal with dead for dark magic, those who read the future using animal entrails, etc. No where does it mention the tarot or astrology NEGATIVELY. Tarot is an astrological tool, like the Qubalah.

    “The voice of the angels shall speak unto thee and by their signs ye shall know them”

    Those signs are astrological and actually predate the bible, read the Torah which is actually the old testament.
    Perhaps she should have done the research to discover the actual origins of angels and how this changed by the Catholic church in the middle ages to suit their agenda. Sad when the truth is easy to find.

  54. I just stumbled upon this article and I am was not surprised. While I was brought up Christian, I also have had experiences of direct messages at a Spiritualist church, in a shaman circle and a number of holy sites in Japan, China, and in a few Spiritualist churches. I’ve had the Christ walk into a Reiki sessions I was giving. But, I do not take the Bible literally. I agree with you that the cards are a tool, a catalyst to receive messages from Spirit.
    Blessings, Erik

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